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Tokarev TT-33


Know Your Ammo!! 7.62x25 Handload Specifications Have Changed!!

The Tokarev Pistol Is Just Plain Cool!!

Remove Extractor Puzzle Solved!!

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The Tokarev pistol, of the Russian designation "TT-33", shoots The 7.62 x 25 Cartridge which is similiar but loaded much hotter than the old .30 Mauser cartridge used in Mauser Broomhandle pistols.  This is a tapered high velocity pistol round. The original TT-1930 design of Russian firearms engineer Fedor Tokarev, was finalized with minor changes in 1933, and was  manufactured in many communist block countries under different lettered designations such as TT-33, TTC, M48, M48 Tokagypt, M57, M70, M70, R-3, Type 51, Type 54, and Type 68.


WARNING
Firearms Are Inherently Dangerous And Should Only Be Handled By Persons Trained In Proper Safety Techniques.

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USA .45 Auto
230 Grain, 800 f.p.s.

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Czech 7.62 x 25
85 Grain, 1,400 f.p.s.


   The 30 caliber cartridge (7.62x25) used in the Tokarev is a small but high velocity round.  The bullet weighs a scan 85 or so grains; however it blasts down range at up to 1400 feet per second!! For such a small bullet diameter, one will discover that the gun is VERY loud.

WARNING!! KNOW YOUR AMMO.  There is some controversy surrounding 7.62x25 military ammo and arms !!  The U.S. Army, and others, because of several reasons including the massive bulk of the CZ-52 compared to the old trusty Tokarev had "assumed" without experimentation that the CZ-52 was a much stronger pistol than the Tokarev. Clark Magnuson did experiments with hot loads for the CZ-52 and Tokarev pistols.  In his experiments he determined the CZ-52, despite it's tremdous bulk, to be less capable than the Tokarev pistol to withstand hot loads. Publishers of reloading manuals have reduced the maximum safe pressures for 7.62x25 handloads in order to protect shooters.

According to Clark, the significant spot in the barrel is the underside of the chamber which is .125" thick on the Tokarev but only .058" in the CZ52 because of the extra milling needed to accomidate the roller mechanism in the CZ.

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The Polish Manufactured Tokarev Pistol Pictured Here Came With A Very Nice Holster.  It All Looked Pretty Rough Out Of The Box But I Dipped The Holster In Some Soapy Water To Float Away The Dirt And Mold, Then Rubbed It Down Good With Saddle Soap And It Came Out Excellent.

Notice the Safety has been added in order to permit importation into the U.S.  Some people like to remove the safety.   I actually see two advantages of leaving the safety intact even though I personally do not use it.
1. It helps me index my thumb and trigger finger to keep a consistent grip and trigger pull.
2. It may prevent one's belt or holster from pressing against the magazine release button when carrying the Tokarev. 

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Removing The Extractor

Removing Extractor From TT-33

Soviet Pistol Work Requires A Hammer.

Here the slide is in vice with leather strips to protect finish from scratching. Extractor pin is bashed out from INSIDE the slide using a proper size punch and large hammer.  Some penetrating oil was used to loosen the rusty grit holding it tight.

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Here The Extractor Pin Is Reinstalled.  Again, leather strips are used and a vice presses the pin in slowly to keep the head of the pin from getting bashed up. Go slow as the pin can decide to move all at once.

 

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Detail Stripping Notes Etc.

A. Firing Pin Removal -
     Pin on passenger side of slide is driven out.  It is a basic pin, seen in picture above
     with a slot cut deeply in it. A cup shaped tool may be helpful to drive it out although
     this one came out fairly easily with a flat punch.  I would recommend taking the firing
     pin out at least once as this specimen had some rusty crap in the firing pin channel.

B. Recoil Spring -
       The recoil spring doesn't come out the front like on a 1911.  W.T.F!!!
     If anybody knows a trick to make putting the spring back in the slide easier
     PLEASE share this with the world.

Safety Modification Notes:


 

1. The import modification safety is poorly made.
2. The half cock safety is well designed.
3. The best safety is between your ears.
4. The half cock feature is original to the design.
5. I do NOT recommend modifying the safety on any firearm.
6. The safety could aid in preventing the magazine release from being pressed against while being carried in a holster. Good reason to leave it there.

   Email from a reader:

Dear bobtuley.com,
I believe if the safety could be removed,  the rough hole in the frame could be filled with steel plugs.  Two would be required. One per side. If the hole is .315" and the safety shaft is .310" it's easy to see why the safety feels so loose and unsafe.  Lathe a steel rod to between .315 and .316 inches. Just about half a thousandth bigger than the hole.  Cut hockey puck shaped slugs from it.  They can't be too thick or they could interfear with inserting the magazine.  If a one piece rod were used, it would interfear with removing the trigger for servicing. Polish the faces of the slugs and treat with a cold blue type of acid to darken the steel.   Dress the inside side edges to aid in insertion.  Press them in with a vice, or tap them in using a soft brass rod and a big fucking hammer. (is ruskie gun).  The detent holes can be filed out square, and a key welded on one of the plugs to fill in that gap if desired.  It's as safe as any other gun I have since proper handling is the only real safety.

another reader:
I covered mine with black tape after the safety failed at the range. When I got home, I hammered a wooden rod in the holes and applied black model paint.  A friend of mine filled his with metal epoxy and painted it black.

Goes without saying "Be Careful Guys" with ANY GUN!


Tom Line - Feb 2010
send email to: tline@iglou.com